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[liberationtech] Is the Cyberwar beginning?

Martin Johnson greatfire at
Thu Jan 31 01:25:28 PST 2013

In so far as there is a cyberwar in China, it's by and large a civil war.
The Chinese government is blocking access to foreign websites, forcing
Chinese websites to delete content and share data on private conversations,
and arresting Chinese Internet users for what they've said to other Chinese
Internet users.

GitHub was targeted, not because it's a foreign company, but because it's a
foreign company that won't take orders from the Chinese government
regarding what content to allow. Because it's HTTPS only, the government
cannot selectively block content. Because it's used by important
businesses, they are reluctant to block it completely.

The man-in-the-middle attack happened on January 26:

Martin Johnson
Founder - Monitoring Online Censorship In China. - Uncensored, Anonymous Sina Weibo Search. - We Can Unblock Your Website In China.

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Aaron Greenspan <greensp at>wrote:

> Andres,
> I don't think so. I also generally don't like the word "cyberwar," as
> (thus far) it's generally been used by reporters who aren't really sure
> what they're talking about to scare people.
> I think we have an increase in the number of internet-connected devices,
> and increase in the reliance of society upon those devices, and a
> corresponding increase in isolated attacks. Some of them will inevitably be
> related to each other. Most will not.
> Aaron
> Aaron Greenspan
> CodeX Fellow | Stanford Center for Legal Informatics |
> Founder | PlainSite |
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