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[liberationtech] Secret European deals to hand over private data to America

Julian Oliver julian at
Mon Jul 1 07:19:32 PDT 2013

..on Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:26:11PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 01, 2013 at 02:15:15AM +0200, André Rebentisch wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > do you follow the news?
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > It is huge and a strong burden on transatlantic relations, a game
> Do you really think that such large scale intercepts are possible 
> without full knowledge and cooperation of key people in politics and 
> industry?
> Lack of surprise to such "revelations" is quite telling.
> Lack of coverage in state sponsored media also tells you
> something. Lack of interest in the general population
> tells you that they're getting away with it.
> > changing incident. We will get a completely different Brussels
> > environment for related topics.
> You are kidding yourself. If you want to change things, invest into
> end to end encryption and end system hardening. Cypherpunks write code.
> Not laws.

Hear here.

Julian Oliver

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