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[liberationtech] Terry Winograd and Evgeny Morozov

Soenke Zehle s.zehle at
Mon Jul 1 23:51:06 PDT 2013

maybe EM's style is more like a 'firstism' (make it sound like you're
the first to make a particular point, obscuring other more or less
readily available forms of critique)

EM: "Let's get the Nazis out of the way first. There's a considerable
body of serious scholarship looking at the technological thought of
the Nazis. They had plenty of engineers and scientists and some had
rather ambitious theoretical ambitions. (Not to mention that Carl
Schmidt and Heidegger, whatever their relationship to Nazism, wrote
about technology)."

Yes Heidegger wrote about technology. But that's one of the places
where firstism just won't do - to read Heidegger and his philosophy of
technology in 'solutionist' terms ends up discrediting the
anti-solutionist project imo. Funny Foucault quote: 'For me, Heidegger
has always been the essential philosopher. My whole philosophical
development was determined by my reading of Heidegger.'


2013/7/2 Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes <alps6085 at>:
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 6:26 PM, x z <xhzhang at> wrote:
>> Morozov
> Well, to Morozov's credit, that's why philosophers prefer German,
> French, Spanish, etcetera, to English! :D
> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
> <alps at>
> +1 (817) 271-9619
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