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[liberationtech] An interview with Snowden and more in Der Spiegel

LilBambi lilbambi at gmail.com
Mon Jul 8 05:37:39 PDT 2013


Very important information. Thank you Jacob.


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Jason Gulledge <ramdac at ramdac.org> wrote:

> As an activist, this is pretty damned frightening:
>
> (excerpt from  http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-en.htm)
>
> *Question:*
> What happens if the NSA has a user in its sights?
>
> *Snowden:*
> The target person is completely monitored. An analyst will get a daily
> report about what has changed in the computer system of the targeted
> person. There will also be... packages with certain data which the
> automatic analysis systems have not understood, and so on. The analyst can
> then decide what he wants to do - the computer of the target person does
> not belong to them anymore, it then more or less belongs to the U.S.
> government.
>
>
> This has ominous implications. I worry about the private encryption keys
> on the computers of people in the "sights" of the NSA.
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:36 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> What we're seeing in Der Spiegel, The Guardian, Washington Post and
> other select publications is the birth of new threat models - not just
> for activists but for all of civil society, parliamentarians, companies
> and more. This is a threat model that "many have known" and yet at the
> same time, there is clearly new stuff. For one - we're seeing
> confirmations of things that have been denied in public - we're also
> learning the names of things, which now made public, may be FOIA'ed by
> name as well as pushing for disclosures. This is where we'll see if
> America will shine - when the information comes out, will we be able to
> use our democratic process to turn this disaster around? I'd like to
> think so - that is why I worked on these pieces - hope is not lost.
> Though hope alone is not a strategy.
>
> I think this may be of interest to people on the list:
>
>  http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/index-7028.html
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/snowden-enthuellung-verbindung-zur-nsa-bringt-bnd-in-erklaerungsnot-a-909884.html
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/us-lauschangriff-opposition-macht-druck-auf-merkel-a-909871.html
>
> For non-German speakers I suggest the following English links:
>
>  http://www.spiegel.de/international/topic/whistle_blowers/
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/whistleblower-snowden-claims-german-intelligence-in-bed-with-nsa-a-909904.html
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/edward-snowden-accuses-germany-of-aiding-nsa-in-spying-efforts-a-909847.html
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/snowden-reveals-how-gchq-in-britain-soaks-up-mass-internet-data-a-909852.htmlv
>
> My interview with Snowden is available as a leaked pdf on cryptome in
> German:
>
>  http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-en.htm
>  http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707.pdf
>  http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-2.pdf
>
> The English original will be released this week.
>
> Last week's article is also very important:
>
>
>
> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/secret-documents-nsa-targeted-germany-and-eu-buildings-a-908609.html
>
> This is also probably of great interest to people on the list:
>
>
> http://oglobo.globo.com/infograficos/volume-rastreamento-governo-americano/
>
>
> http://jaraparilla.blogspot.com/2013/07/nsa-surveillance-of-australia-exposed.html
>
>
> http://www.theage.com.au/world/snowden-reveals-australias-links-to-us-spy-web-20130708-2plyg.html
>
> Welcome to the Grim Meathook Future, Citizens! Lets turn this ship around!
>
> All the best,
> Jacob
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