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[liberationtech] An interview with Snowden and more in Der Spiegel

LilBambi lilbambi at gmail.com
Mon Jul 8 15:00:51 PDT 2013


That is an excellent article at Boston Review. And it contains many of the
same thought processes many of us made when such ludicrous accusations were
made regarding Snowden and that he should have worked within the system. I
know I worked through in my mind how that would have worked and the general
public would not be made aware of all of this IMHO without him going
OUTSIDE the system.

I feel he did what was best for We The People. And We The People should
somehow ensure he is protected for doing that from action that 'our own'
government may try to do to him.  But I have no idea how that would be done.


On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, David Johnson <david at bostonreview.net>wrote:

> Along similar lines, I'd like to recommend Archon Fung's thoughts on
> Snowden and what it means for American democracy and journalism ...
>
>
> https://www.bostonreview.net/blog/what-snowden-affair-tells-us-about-american-democracy
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What we're seeing in Der Spiegel, The Guardian, Washington Post and
>> other select publications is the birth of new threat models - not just
>> for activists but for all of civil society, parliamentarians, companies
>> and more. This is a threat model that "many have known" and yet at the
>> same time, there is clearly new stuff. For one - we're seeing
>> confirmations of things that have been denied in public - we're also
>> learning the names of things, which now made public, may be FOIA'ed by
>> name as well as pushing for disclosures. This is where we'll see if
>> America will shine - when the information comes out, will we be able to
>> use our democratic process to turn this disaster around? I'd like to
>> think so - that is why I worked on these pieces - hope is not lost.
>> Though hope alone is not a strategy.
>>
>> I think this may be of interest to people on the list:
>>
>>   http://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/index-7028.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/snowden-enthuellung-verbindung-zur-nsa-bringt-bnd-in-erklaerungsnot-a-909884.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/us-lauschangriff-opposition-macht-druck-auf-merkel-a-909871.html
>>
>> For non-German speakers I suggest the following English links:
>>
>>   http://www.spiegel.de/international/topic/whistle_blowers/
>>
>>
>> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/whistleblower-snowden-claims-german-intelligence-in-bed-with-nsa-a-909904.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/edward-snowden-accuses-germany-of-aiding-nsa-in-spying-efforts-a-909847.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/snowden-reveals-how-gchq-in-britain-soaks-up-mass-internet-data-a-909852.htmlv
>>
>> My interview with Snowden is available as a leaked pdf on cryptome in
>> German:
>>
>>   http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-en.htm
>>   http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707.pdf
>>   http://cryptome.org/2013/07/snowden-spiegel-13-0707-2.pdf
>>
>> The English original will be released this week.
>>
>> Last week's article is also very important:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/secret-documents-nsa-targeted-germany-and-eu-buildings-a-908609.html
>>
>> This is also probably of great interest to people on the list:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://oglobo.globo.com/infograficos/volume-rastreamento-governo-americano/
>>
>>
>> http://jaraparilla.blogspot.com/2013/07/nsa-surveillance-of-australia-exposed.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.theage.com.au/world/snowden-reveals-australias-links-to-us-spy-web-20130708-2plyg.html
>>
>> Welcome to the Grim Meathook Future, Citizens! Lets turn this ship around!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Jacob
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