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[liberationtech] DecryptoCat

Maxim Kammerer mk at
Tue Jul 9 02:55:37 PDT 2013

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Michael Rogers
<michael at> wrote:
> Google and Mozilla wouldn't have to run
> competitions to find holes in their own browsers. There wouldn't be a
> multi-million-dollar 0day black market.

You are talking about huge projects with complex design, where the
architecture itself is a source of security issues. Not to mention
that WebKit and Mozilla weren't engineered for security to begin with.

> It wouldn't be possible for
> the NSA (according to Snowden) to "simply own" the computer of any
> person of interest.

Offtopic, but I didn't see any indication in that last paragraph of
Jacob's interview that Snowden talks about exploiting computers. In
general, Snowden for some reason is usually terribly vague for someone
who apparently exhibits excellent command of English language (from my
non-native speaker's POV).

> Writing secure software is much, much harder than simply writing
> comments, writing tests and coding defensively.

This is a thread about Cryptocat. Cryptocat is a web frontend for a
couple of protocols. Yes, it is that easy.

Maxim Kammerer
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