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[liberationtech] DecryptoCat

Patrick Mylund Nielsen cryptography at
Tue Jul 9 06:12:21 PDT 2013

If it's so easy, go ahead and produce a more secure alternative that people
will use. Talking about how exceedingly easy it is in Internet forums
doesn't contribute much.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Maxim Kammerer <mk at> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Michael Rogers
> <michael at> wrote:
> > Google and Mozilla wouldn't have to run
> > competitions to find holes in their own browsers. There wouldn't be a
> > multi-million-dollar 0day black market.
> You are talking about huge projects with complex design, where the
> architecture itself is a source of security issues. Not to mention
> that WebKit and Mozilla weren't engineered for security to begin with.
> > It wouldn't be possible for
> > the NSA (according to Snowden) to "simply own" the computer of any
> > person of interest.
> Offtopic, but I didn't see any indication in that last paragraph of
> Jacob's interview that Snowden talks about exploiting computers. In
> general, Snowden for some reason is usually terribly vague for someone
> who apparently exhibits excellent command of English language (from my
> non-native speaker's POV).
> > Writing secure software is much, much harder than simply writing
> > comments, writing tests and coding defensively.
> This is a thread about Cryptocat. Cryptocat is a web frontend for a
> couple of protocols. Yes, it is that easy.
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