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[liberationtech] DecryptoCat

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Tue Jul 9 15:57:03 PDT 2013

On 07/09/2013 06:25 PM, Petter Ericson wrote:
>>> What are the steps for sending Bob a message using Cables?
>>> This isn't rhetorical, I'd actually like to know what the steps are.
>> Roughly I think this is correct:
>> 0. Download
>> 1. Boot any modern computer with the usb disk inserted
>> 2. launch Claws email client
>> 3) write message to bob's cable address and press send
>> If you have a supported platform, you can skip 0-2 and replace it with
>> 'install cables' - as one might install a modern browser.
> I do not think that installing a modern browser entails building it from 
> source for most people. 
>> If you're going to say that using Gmail easily happens in any browser on
>> any OS, I guess I'd tend to disagree.
>> If we add "securely" into the picture, I guess I'd just laugh and laugh
>> and laugh. Sadly. It is really a bummer that PRISM exists and that
>> Google appears to be under the boot of that system. Though accessing
>> Gmail with Chrome is clearly better than any other choice!
> Unfortunately, the question wasn't how to communicate _securely_, but how to
> communicate _at all_, which is what most people aim to do in the first place.
> Please do not pretend that <hash>@<hash>.onion is as easy to remember as
> jose at or something similar, or that installing dependencies and
> building from source is similar to a one-click installer.
> Best
> /P

Well, not be cynical, but I think "people" would have to exert a few
more iotas of energy, and learn how use Tor or software like cables
starting from now on.  Unless their freedom is something not that
important to them.

I mean, people all over have learned how to lock their doors, right?  It
is definitely inconvenient for me to lock my damn doors at 8 o'clock in
the morning, as I am rushing off to work.  But I do it, because it has
been impressed upon me that it is rather important to do so for obvious

Maybe it's time to raise the bar just a bit, and start setting
expectations for emailing that go beyond "Go to and start
typing your message to your friend."

The barrier is more ideological and a function of habituation, than a
question of difficulty.  I know those can be steep bars to overcome, but
people all over have learned how to use the Windows control panel (a
nightmare of poor design for an intended audience of non-sophisticated
computer users, if you ask me), how to use their anti-virus checker, and
how to communicate on Twitter in streams of 140 chars (not the most
elegant or intuitive thing in the world, before it existed, and/or
people were told that twitter is easy to use).

Often one has to actually try something new to learn not to fear it's
apparent complexity.

>> All the best,
>> Jacob
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