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[liberationtech] WC3 and DRM

Joseph Lorenzo Hall joe at
Wed Jul 17 06:52:06 PDT 2013

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On Wed Jul 17 01:27:27 2013, Catherine Roy wrote:
>> Also, has the EFF's formal objection had any effect?
> To my knowledge, no information has yet been made public regarding
> the outcome of this formal objection. There has been a second
> formal objection filed that is also awaiting resolution [6].

(full disclosure: my org, CDT, is a w3c member and I'm a member of
html-media, restrictedmedia and a few others. Also, CDT does not
categorically oppose DRM... although we've not done any DRM work since

I have had a hard time figuring out what, exactly, is going on. I had
thought that this decision [1] about EME being out of scope for the
html WG dealt with the EFF's objection. But it looks like the
objection Catherine points to [2] that incorporated the EFF objection
was posted considerably after the decision in [1]. There is a bug
(20967) [3] for this objection, in a manner of speaking (it only
addresses part of the EFF objection), but it's been marked a dupe of
an interop bug on CDMs (which I believe are out of scope for EME,
etc.) and the first public working draft (FPWD) was indeed published
on 10 May [4].

What I suspect is happening is this: the EFF objection is to the
*charter* of the HTML WG and whether or not EME should be in scope for
that charter. Objections like the one above in w3c against a FPWD
doesn't stop the FPWD from being published, but presumably the w3c
director has to eventually say something about formal objections. So,
maybe this is winding its' way up to the Director?

Anyway, if anyone has further insight, I'd be interested.

best, Joe

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