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[liberationtech] decloudification: reverting to typewriters?

Raven Jiang CX jcx at stanford.edu
Wed Jul 17 13:31:25 PDT 2013


Sure it's all technically possible but as Lucas pointed out it's all a
matter of economies of scale.

Model dragnet surveillance is enabled by how cheap and easy it is to do
things through software. Bugging typewriters will require a lot more
deliberate precision and man hours.

Mass leaking of confidential documents is enabled how easy it is for a
single person to copy massive amounts of data. Photocopying boxes of
documents will risk greater potential of scrutiny by coworkers.

Switching to typewriters is probably not the smartest solution to the
problem they are trying to solve, but you can't argue that it makes no
difference.

Raven Jiang

*Stanford University*
*Computer Science*
soraven.com <http://www.soraven.com/>


On 17 July 2013 12:18, Alan Snitow and Deborah Kaufman <secrets at igc.org>wrote:

> The cover of Philip Agee's book "CIA Diary: Inside the Company" is a
> picture of his typewriter--rigged by the CIA to capture what he wrote.
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
>
> Also, there's quite a bit of work on "keyboard emanations" (listening
> to sound from keyboards) which could be applied to typewriters with
> little modification. So these had better be well-swept (against
> listening devices) rooms! Or have tons of typewriters in each room...
> or dynamically realocate the keys on the typewriter (not sure if that's
> possible or practical!). best, Joe
>
> On Wed Jul 17 12:01:00 2013, Griffin Boyce wrote:
>
>  If you need something typed, but don't want it to be easily stolen,
>
> typewriters would be a good option.  However, if the goal is to prevent
>
> leaking, then that's not really going to work.  It's not difficult to xerox
>
> something or take a photo and then leak *that*.  Cameras can be very tiny,
>
> and portable scanners can be hidden in a jacket pocket or under a pant leg.
>
>
>  Security hasn't disappeared just because we default to using technology.
>
>
>  The Kremlin's a big place though. Ordering just four typewriters doesn't
>
> necessarily mean that they've changed security or tactics.  I do have to
>
> wonder if they're just replacing other typewriters... or maybe the recent
>
> leakstravaganza has made them reconsider their own policies :D
>
>
> ~Griffin
>
>
>
>
>  If you need something typed, but don't want it to be easily stolen,
>
> typewriters would be a good option.  However, if the goal is to
>
> prevent leaking, then that's not really going to work.  It's not
>
> difficult to xerox something or take a photo and then leak *that*.
>
> Cameras can be very tiny, and portable scanners can be hidden in a
>
> jacket pocket or under a pant leg.
>
>
>  Security hasn't disappeared just because we default to using technology.
>
>
>  The Kremlin's a big place though. Ordering just four typewriters
>
> doesn't necessarily mean that they've changed security or tactics.  I
>
> do have to wonder if they're just replacing other typewriters... or
>
> maybe the recent leakstravaganza has made them reconsider their own
>
> policies :D
>
>
> ~Griffin
>
>
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