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[liberationtech] WC3 and DRM

Danny O'Brien danny at eff.org
Wed Jul 17 22:43:14 PDT 2013


On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 09:52:06AM -0400, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
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> On Wed Jul 17 01:27:27 2013, Catherine Roy wrote:
> > 
> >> Also, has the EFF's formal objection had any effect?
> > 
> > To my knowledge, no information has yet been made public regarding
> > the outcome of this formal objection. There has been a second
> > formal objection filed that is also awaiting resolution [6].
> 
> (full disclosure: my org, CDT, is a w3c member and I'm a member of
> html-media, restrictedmedia and a few others. Also, CDT does not
> categorically oppose DRM... although we've not done any DRM work since
> 2006.)
> 
> I have had a hard time figuring out what, exactly, is going on. I had
> thought that this decision [1] about EME being out of scope for the
> html WG dealt with the EFF's objection. But it looks like the
> objection Catherine points to [2] that incorporated the EFF objection
> was posted considerably after the decision in [1]. There is a bug
> (20967) [3] for this objection, in a manner of speaking (it only
> addresses part of the EFF objection), but it's been marked a dupe of
> an interop bug on CDMs (which I believe are out of scope for EME,
> etc.) and the first public working draft (FPWD) was indeed published
> on 10 May [4].
> 
> What I suspect is happening is this: the EFF objection is to the
> *charter* of the HTML WG and whether or not EME should be in scope for
> that charter. Objections like the one above in w3c against a FPWD
> doesn't stop the FPWD from being published, but presumably the w3c
> director has to eventually say something about formal objections. So,
> maybe this is winding its' way up to the Director?

My recollection is that the handling of Andreas' formal objection is on
hold while the EFF formal objection is being addressed[1]. It's separate
from the determination that EME is in scope by the director, which was
the result of an ad hoc consultation by the HTML WG chairs.

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0166.html

d.


> 
> Anyway, if anyone has further insight, I'd be interested.
> 
> best, Joe
> 
> [1]:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0030.html
> [2]:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013May/0138.html
> [3]: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20967
> [4]: http://www.w3.org/TR/encrypted-media/
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