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[liberationtech] NSA, FBI, Verizon caught red handed spying on US citizens in the US

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6085 at
Thu Jun 6 05:36:24 PDT 2013

OK, so the US government has no business, or rather no moral authority,
chiding other countries about freedom of speech!
On Jun 6, 2013 6:10 AM, "Jacob Appelbaum" <jacob at> wrote:

> Dear Libtech,
> We've waited a long time for this kind of FISA court document to leak -
> we see clearly evidence that there is still dragnet surveillance that is
> ongoing - the current order leaked is still valid as of today, it will
> continue to be valid until the middle of July.
> This specifically includes Americans without any international or even
> inter-city connections!
> To quote:
> "wholly within the United States, including local telephone calls"
> It specifically says a lot more:
> Declassify on: 12 April 2038
> ...
> IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that, the Custodian of Records shall produce to the
> National Security Agency (NSA) upon service of this Order, and continue
> production on an ongoing daily basis thereafter for the duration of this
> Order, unless otherwise ordered by the Court, an electronic copy of the
> following tangible things: all call detail records or "telephony
> metadata" created by Verizon for communications (i) between the United
> States and abroad; or (ii) wholly within the United States, including
> local telephone calls. This Order does not require Verizon to produce
> telephony metadata for communications wholly originating and terminating
> in foreign countries. Telephony metadata includes comprehensive
> communications routing information,. including but not limited to
> session identifying information (e.g., originating and
> terminating telephone number, International Mobile Subscriber Identity
> (IMSI) number, International Mobile station Equipment Identity (IMEI)
> number, etc.), trunk identifier, telephone calling card numbers, and
> time and duration of call. Telephony metadata does not include the
> substantive content of any communication, as defined by 18 U.S.C.
> § 2510(8), or the name, address, or financial information of a
> subscriber or customer.
> The leaked order is here:
> The writeup by Glenn Greenwald is worth reading as he broke the story:
> This pretty much settles the dragnet surveillance debate - the FBI, the
> NSA, the FISA courts are aware of it - all the way to the top. Thus it
> is likely the DoJ are all in on it. This is madness and it is exactly
> proof of what we have been saying for years. This time it is undeniable
> as it is signed by a FISA judge and it is *currently* happening.
> I look forward to the FISA order for full content or the FISA for
> targeted based on patterns to leak next!
> All the best,
> Jacob
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