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[liberationtech] NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secret ppt reveals

Andrew Lewis me at andrewlew.is
Thu Jun 6 17:32:10 PDT 2013


It might be that "PRISM" is merely the end user tool for use by analysts at the NSA, and that the actual gathering of info falls under another program designation, with a much larger budget. 

PRISM isn't really even that illegal, as long as they discard communications considered to be "American". The NSA has been listening to radio signals from all over the world for years, from military bases strategically positioned to pickup radio signals of interest, amongst other types of communication data. This is really just the extension of similar ideas, to a new form of communications, the novel part of the whole thing is that it leverages the fact that so many tech companies are located in the US and that a ton of the internet backbone is run through America. 

-Andrew

On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb <ei8fdb at ei8fdb.org> wrote:

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> Still that figures seems awfully small. For whats involved. I've seen telco projects of a fraction the size of something like this costing £10M.
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> Unless they've managed to get the companies to foot the majority of the bill?
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> In that case, why would the companies accept the majority of the costs?
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> Too many questions and too many possibilities for conspiracy theories..
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> On 7 Jun 2013, at 01:14, Tom Ritter wrote:
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>> On Jun 6, 2013 7:28 PM, "Eduardo Robles Elvira" <edulix at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> NSA just $20M of budget? The same NSA that is building a data center
>>> (for processing what? =) for 869 million USD$ in Maryland?
>>> 
>>> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/06/06/2129249/nsa-building-860-million-data-center-in-maryland
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>> The $20 million figure refers to the budget for the Prism program, not the whole NSA.
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>> -tom
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