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[liberationtech] NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secret ppt reveals

x z xhzhang at gmail.com
Thu Jun 6 21:23:03 PDT 2013


What surprised me is how Guardian and Washington Post cover this "story".
The Power Point slides looks laughable to me. Maybe I should interpret
"direct access to servers of firms" as like when I'm typing this email I am
also having *a direct access* to Gmail's servers.

This either a ploy by some "pro-privacy" extremist or a prank by somebody
who's tired of these hyperbole privacy outcries.



2013/6/6 Peter Eckersley <peter.eckersley at gmail.com>

> Of course, I was reading to fast and leaning to heavily on control+f.
>
> Anyway, 20 million annually seems like a very low number by the usual
> standards of efficiency in Department of Defense programs.  But the NSA
> might already have a data storage, processing and query architecture in
> place that is either not included in this budget or only included on a
> marginal cost basis.
>
>
> On 6 June 2013 16:45, Peter Eckersley <peter.eckersley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Where did you get the $20m budget number from?  I can't find it in any of
>> the stories or attached materials.  But I could be missing something.
>>
>>
>> On 6 June 2013 16:14, x z <xhzhang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> doesn't seem real to me.  especially the part "*direct access to servers
>>> * of firms ...", and with an annual budget of measly $20m.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/6/6 Michael Carbone <michael at accessnow.org>
>>>
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>>>> Guardian:
>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
>>>>
>>>> WaPo:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_1.html
>>>>
>>>> some of the slides (haven't seen the full ppt drop):
>>>>
>>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/
>>>>
>>>> Participating companies in chronological order: Microsoft, Yahoo,
>>>> Google, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, Apple. Dropbox
>>>> apparently next up.
>>>>
>>>> - --
>>>> Michael Carbone
>>>> Manager of Tech Policy & Programs
>>>> Access | https://www.accessnow.org
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