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[liberationtech] Stop promoting Skype

Michael Dahan dahanm at gmail.com
Fri Jun 7 05:44:09 PDT 2013


Apropos backdooring where do think the Palestinian authority gets its
bandwidth from/through under the Oslo Accords? Not to mention the large NSA
installation next door to the center of Israeli military intelligence...
On Jun 7, 2013 3:38 PM, "Nadim Kobeissi" <nadim at nadim.cc> wrote:

> On 2013-06-07, at 8:31 AM, Yishay Mor <yishaym at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "If all this already exists, why isn’t everybody doing it? Well, simply
> because there is no integration at all among all those objects. "
> >
> > No. we don't need no software bundles. we don't need no sleek installers.
> > How long does it take me to set up a gmail account? facebook account?
> flickr account? 20 seconds. how much does it cost me to set up? how much
> does it cost me to maintain? (ok, skype is an exception, I do need to
> install).
>
> Interestingly, we've been getting some emails since the NSA/PRISM story
> regarding people switching to Cryptocat.
>
> It's a really encouraging and awesome trend to see people care about
> privacy-enabling technologies that are accessible and easy to use. To an
> extent, we've succeeded here because we've made it as easy as Facebook or
> Skype to have private conversations using free and open source software. So
> if someone is switching from Facebook or Skype to Cryptocat, it's a really
> positive thing.
>
> The big challenge, though, so far is delineating the use cases and threat
> models. I have no problem seeing a lot of regular people flock to Cryptocat
> just for common-sense privacy concerns. But catering to that, and catering
> to activists/human rights workers in Mission Impossible situations, are two
> different stories. Concerning the latter, considering the outrageous nature
> of the PRISM story, I may have not been joking when I said "STOP PROMOTING
> THE INTERNET" to activists after all. :P
>
> NK
>
> >
> > See that's the standard you're competing with. Most users don't own
> server space, physical or virtual, and would not in a million years be
> convinced to buy any.
> >
> > Yishay
> >
> > ___________________________
> >    http://www.yishaymor.org
> > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail
> > /\    www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
> >
> >
> > On 7 June 2013 09:47, M. Fioretti <mfioretti at nexaima.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 09:16:32 AM +0200, Eduardo Robles Elvira wrote:
> > > Stop promoting google hangout and hotmail, yahoo, gmail,
> outlook.com... =)
> >
> > and start promoting their replacement via user-friendly bundling of
> > Free Software that already exist and may run in a portable way on any
> > cheap VPS:
> >
> >
> http://stop.zona-m.net/2013/01/the-alternatives-to-apple-facebook-c-already-exist-shall-we-package-them/
> >
> > --
> > M. Fioretti http://mfioretti.com
> http://stop.zona-m.net
> >
> > Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how
> > software is used *around* you
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