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[liberationtech] Stop promoting Skype

Eugen Leitl eugen at
Fri Jun 7 07:40:17 PDT 2013

On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 10:18:25AM -0400, Griffin Boyce wrote:

>   I'll keep that in mind the next time someone from Tor promotes Riseup ;-)
>   But seriously, average users need to have basic services that are
> (unfortunately) run by third parties.  At a minimum, diversification
> of services used.  If every activist uses Riseup or May First, those
> services become just as high a priority for warrants as Gmail or
> Hotmail.  If you have your own domain, that's awesome.  This is not a

If your system is tied to a DNS FQDN resolution for operability, 
your system should not be tied to a DNS FQDN resolution. 

You'll notice that systems like Tor, i2p, Bitmessage or
cjdns all do not rely on DNS resolution (which is centralist,
seizable, a source of potential leaks, etc). 

> realistic expectation for most people -- either because they lack the
> knowledge to install and upkeep their hosting, class stratification,
> or complete absence of time to do it.

This is exactly what the Freedombox project is trying to address.
>   What would be fantastic is if more people who *did* have the
> knowledge/money took the time to set up their own accounts on their
> own domains.  And if you're a developer or an advanced user, help
> others do it too!  It's far better to have a domain for your group of
> friends than have everyone use riseup/gmail/etc.
>   If you want gmail-like features, there are lots of open-source
> avenues, like MailPile [1].
>   I'm also going to go against the grain and say that most services
> don't *need* to be integrated with each other.
> ~Griffin
> [1]

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