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[liberationtech] Stop promoting Skype

micah micah at
Fri Jun 7 08:45:28 PDT 2013

Griffin Boyce <griffinboyce at> writes:

> <liberationtech at> wrote:
>> Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at> wrote:
>>> The next person that recommends Skype to human rights activists is
>>> completely discredited. Stop it and stop it now.
>> s/Skype/third party services/
>> Fixed that for you.
>   I'll keep that in mind the next time someone from Tor promotes Riseup ;-)

What about when someone from Riseup promotes Riseup services? :o

>   But seriously, average users need to have basic services that are
> (unfortunately) run by third parties.  At a minimum, diversification
> of services used.  If every activist uses Riseup or May First, those
> services become just as high a priority for warrants as Gmail or
> Hotmail.  

But seriously, riseup has always wanted more people to do what we do,
not to become more a more centralized data silo. I spent many years
being a documentation activist to encourage others by walking them how
we did it. We've switched our strategy a little bit now that we are able
to document our infrastructure in code and can collaborate with others
in doing so. 

It only has been recent that companies such as google and twitter have
been doing something more interesting than just handing over things when
the police ask, that was nice to see, we felt very alone out
there... but now I'm not sure what to think when I see those companies
involved in the dragnet, I guess we feel alone again because I didn't
notice Riseup or Mayfirst's logo in that Prism powerpoint!


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