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[liberationtech] NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secret ppt reveals

Raven Jiang CX jcx at
Fri Jun 7 10:30:45 PDT 2013

This is just circumstantial speculation but read

Given Palantir's rapid expansion and aggressive recruitment, I think this
guy might be onto something.

I suspect that what is being described in the slides is not direct backdoor
access to the live systems, but rather regularly aggregated data being sent
to a central location to be contextualized using Palantir's analytics.

>From the perspective of the analyst working with Palantir's software, he
can do lookups and cross references between the databases seemingly live.
At tech talks, Palantir employees will often stress the fact that their
analytic software comes with built-in privacy controls, i.e. fine-grained
user permission control so that analysts are given only the specific subset
of data points or data columns that they need to do their job. Perhaps the
so-called EULA described in the Washington Post article is really just part
of the analytics software as opposed to some live Google backdoor API.

Certainly this would seem a more plausible scenario than direct access
given the cited budget and denial from the major tech companies of "direct


On 7 June 2013 10:15, David Miller <david at> wrote:

> On 7 June 2013 15:13, R. Jason Cronk <rjc at> wrote:
>>    - The Powerpoint is amateurish  (then again with no budget.....)
>> "These powerpoint slides are too amateurish to be real"
> Poe's Law of Powerpoint states:
> A fundamental constraint of the known universe is that once your
> organisation grows to more than 100 people, it is impossible to create a
> parodic Powerpoint deck more amateurish than a Powerpoint deck being
> genuinely used within said organisation.
> --
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> David Miller
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