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[liberationtech] Stop promoting Skype

Nadim Kobeissi nadim at
Fri Jun 7 11:09:41 PDT 2013

On 2013-06-07, at 2:06 PM, Griffin Boyce <griffinboyce at> wrote:

> micah <micah at> wrote:
>> What about when someone from Riseup promotes Riseup services? :o
> Riseup isn't evil, I'm just amused by people who say "no third-party
> services!" and then launch into why people should use their
> third-party provider of choice.  If one wants to say "no
> corporate-owned services," that's a bit of a different argument =)

There's a lot of distasteful side effects with Internet freedom becoming so politicized due to the inauguration of so many nonprofits dependent on grants, bureaucracy and professional reputation to survive. A lot of the time people get to cherry-pick what to attack and what to support based only partially on security concerns.


>> It only has been recent that companies such as google and twitter have
>> been doing something more interesting than just handing over things when
>> the police ask, that was nice to see, we felt very alone out
>> there... but now I'm not sure what to think when I see those companies
>> involved in the dragnet, I guess we feel alone again because I didn't
>> notice Riseup or Mayfirst's logo in that Prism powerpoint!
> You should be really proud! =D Being a pain in the ass is underrated.
> best,
> Griffin
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