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[liberationtech] Airline Shutdown Because of Loss of Internet Service?

Kyle Maxwell kylem at xwell.org
Sat Jun 8 07:11:32 PDT 2013


How are the two concepts related?

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:42 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is this kind of event an argument against "net neutrality"?
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> [mailto:liberationtech-bounces at lists.stanford.edu] On Behalf Of Andrés
> Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:05 AM
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> Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Airline Shutdown Because of Loss of Internet
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> One thing that comes to mind right away is that more & more companies are
> replacing private-circuit based WANs by Internet-VPNs, & thus, when the
> Internet is down, their "network" is down; even more, if they depend on any
> SaaS (from Salesforce.com for CRM to Maximo for Asset management), or, in
> general, XaaS (AWS, Rackspace, etc.), for critical business systems, a
> fast-growing trend, the Internet is their "backbone."
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> On Jun 6, 2013 2:45 AM, "michael gurstein" <gurstein at gmail.com> wrote:
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> This is probably not a Liberation issue directly but I'm not sure where else
> to address it...
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> Sunday I was flying (Porter Airlines--small short hop Canadian carrier) from
> NYC to Ottawa, ON with a plane change in Toronto. When we arrived in Toronto
> we were informed that "because the Internet was down" planes were not able
> to land or depart.  The company's service was completely shut down for
> roughly 4 hours until the "Internet service" was restored (presumably by
> their ISP).
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> I understand that other airlines have had similar experiences recently.
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> My question... how exactly is Internet service so intertwined with flight
> operations that service can function only if the Internet is operational?
> (And I guess the Liberation angle... if this is now pervasive for all
> airlines what is the hackable element of all this and where are the points
> of vulnerability etc.etc.?
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