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[liberationtech] Fwd: Persona and Prism

Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb ei8fdb at
Sat Jun 8 18:53:07 PDT 2013

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While not as big a player in the identity area as others, below is Mozilla's Identity group response to a question about legal (or otherwise) requests.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho at>
> Date: 8 June 2013 15:11:44 GMT+01:00
> To: Ben Adida <ben at>
> Cc: "dev-identity at" <dev-identity at>
> Subject: Re: Persona and Prism
> On 7 June 2013 19:43, Ben Adida <ben at> wrote:
>> Melvin,
>> Would it be correct to say that Persona would have no option but to comply
>>> with operations such as  "Prism"?
>> I will speak very precisely to what I know: Mozilla Persona has not been
>> the target of these kinds of inquiries to date. If we did receive
>> inquiries, we would put them through the same rigorous process we always do
>> to determine whether there is a legal requirement for us to comply.
> Thanks for getting back.  It's good to know Mozilla was not part of this.
> To be fair I'm sure most people at the other firms did not want to
> sacrifice user data, but probably felt they had no choice.  It's worse that
> this happened in secret.
> e.g. facebook's comment was a little scary:
> *They said: “We will protect you and your information better than any other
> company in the world.”
> They say: “When Facebook is asked for data or information about specific
> individuals, we carefully scrutinize any such request for compliance with
> all applicable laws, and provide information only to the extent required by
> law.”
> *
> What's concerning is that if Persona gains in popularity, it may become
> more of a target.
>> It helps that we've designed the protocol to limit the data we collect
>> (without compromising our use cases, a sweet spot.)
> I think this is the way to go.  I'd still like to see a "zero knowledge"
> option, but perhaps that's something for the future.
>> -Ben
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