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[liberationtech] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

Trevor Timm trevor at
Sat Jun 8 20:13:30 PDT 2013

>From the Washington Post, just published:

"Intelligence community sources said that this description, although
inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of
analysts at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world,
government employees cleared for PRISM access may "task" the system and
receive results from an Internet company without further interaction
with the company's staff."

On 6/8/13 8:10 PM, x z wrote:
> 2013/6/8 Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at
> <mailto:jacob at>>
>     Oh man, Glenn Greenwald is my hero and a hero to us all. 
> Do you still believe Glenn's reporting that NSA has "direct access to
> servers of firms including Google, Apple and Facebook"? In my view, he
> misled the world intentionally (the few prism training slides
> published did not seem to claim this). Glenn is at best a wacky
> journalist without common sense.
> His reporting on the Verizon case was good, but I think his
> credibility bankrupted after the PRISM one.
>     Everyone on
>     this list who was looking for 'some evidence' about global
>     surveillance
>     and previously ignored all other evidence, well, here you go!
>     "Revealed: The NSA's powerful tool for cataloguing data -- including
>     figures on US collection"
>     This screenshot from the program is very web 2.0:
>     The NSA is spying on the US and on the rest of the planet. There is no
>     ability to deny this anymore. Anyone who denies it is a complete
>     moron.
> I don't understand why this "evidence" is significant in any way. NSA
> certainly has lots of information, and a web2.0'ish tool is nothing
> surprising. It's rather moot to state "anyone who denies it is a
> complete moron". It's like the highway patrol keeping my driving record.
> Again, I'm not rooting for NSA. I think its power need to be limited
> and it needs more transparency. But I hate using misinformation or
> hyperbole to achieve that goal. This hurts the credibility of all the
> pro-privacy groups in general.
>     All the best,
>     Jacob
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Trevor Timm
Electronic Frontier Foundation
(415) 436 9333 ex. 104

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