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[liberationtech] Boundless Informant: the NSA's secret tool to track global surveillance data

Rich Kulawiec rsk at
Sun Jun 9 07:08:50 PDT 2013

On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 09:45:31AM -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
> I don't agree with x z (and rather agree with you), but I'm really tired of just how aggressive and rude you always are on Libtech. 

First: you've got to be kidding.  I've never seen a single message on
this list that goes past about 2 on a 10 scale.  (Not that I'd mind
seeing things that go higher: I really do enjoy quality flamage.)

Second: stupidity, in all forms, fully deserves to be slapped down --
hard.  I expect that if I say something stupid here (and if I haven't
already, eventually I will) that I'll get hammered for it.  Good.
I should be.  Because I would rather endure the pummelling and the
possible embarassment than persist in being wrong.  (Or worse,
making someone else be wrong too because they think I'm right when
I'm most certainly not.)

Third: anyone who can't handle the exceedingly gentle discussions here
(which are, generally speaking, held between people who are *all on the
same side*, at least in a philosophical sense), is really, really not
up to the task of "liberating" anything.  Because doing so will require
going up against people who will do far more than just type a few mildly
caustic words in an email message from time to time.

Jacob's contributions here are among the most cogent and useful.  I don't
care how "aggressive" and "rude" he is (and I don't think he is at all,
by the way), I care if he's right -- and he has an excellent track record
of being so.


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