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nadim at nadim.cc
Sun Jun 9 07:11:08 PDT 2013
On 2013-06-09, at 10:08 AM, Rich Kulawiec <rsk at gsp.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 09:45:31AM -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>> I don't agree with x z (and rather agree with you), but I'm really tired of just how aggressive and rude you always are on Libtech.
> First: you've got to be kidding. I've never seen a single message on
> this list that goes past about 2 on a 10 scale. (Not that I'd mind
> seeing things that go higher: I really do enjoy quality flamage.)
> Second: stupidity, in all forms, fully deserves to be slapped down --
This is where I stop reading.
> hard. I expect that if I say something stupid here (and if I haven't
> already, eventually I will) that I'll get hammered for it. Good.
> I should be. Because I would rather endure the pummelling and the
> possible embarassment than persist in being wrong. (Or worse,
> making someone else be wrong too because they think I'm right when
> I'm most certainly not.)
> Third: anyone who can't handle the exceedingly gentle discussions here
> (which are, generally speaking, held between people who are *all on the
> same side*, at least in a philosophical sense), is really, really not
> up to the task of "liberating" anything. Because doing so will require
> going up against people who will do far more than just type a few mildly
> caustic words in an email message from time to time.
> Jacob's contributions here are among the most cogent and useful. I don't
> care how "aggressive" and "rude" he is (and I don't think he is at all,
> by the way), I care if he's right -- and he has an excellent track record
> of being so.
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