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[liberationtech] NSA whistleblower revealed

Raven Jiang CX jcx at stanford.edu
Sun Jun 9 19:47:53 PDT 2013


I have a less sinister explanation: The New York Times was taken by
surprising by The Guardian article and did not have enough time and
original material to justify a stronger headline.


On 9 June 2013 17:39, Sheila Parks <sheilaruthparks at comcast.net> wrote:

> Thx for sharing
>
> What do you expect from the corporate lapdogs who are part of the problem
>
> Sheila
>
>
> At 08:35 PM 6/9/2013, you wrote:
>
>> Check out this screenshot of the front page of the New York Times right
>> now. Unbelievable:
>>
>> https://twitter.com/kaepora/**status/343888967554457600<https://twitter.com/kaepora/status/343888967554457600>
>>
>> NK
>>
>> On 2013-06-09, at 8:17 PM, Matt Johnson <railmeat at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Snowden says he wants asylum in Iceland. Why not go there directly?
>> >
>> > Going to Hong Kong makes him vulnerable to accusations of working for
>> the PRC.
>> >
>> > None of that makes sense to me, but what do I know. I will watch, and
>> learn.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Raven Jiang CX <jcx at stanford.edu>
>> wrote:
>> >> There is a strong resistance against Chinese strong-arming in Hong
>> Kong,
>> >> plus I am not sure that it is actually in the interest of the Chinese
>> >> government to help the US do anything about this. I think you can make
>> a
>> >> case for why it's a better choice, though it is definitely debatable.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9 June 2013 15:10, Sheila Parks <sheilaruthparks at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree with what you say about Hong Kong
>> >>>
>> >>> He does say he would like to end up in Iceland
>> >>>
>> >>> Wonder why he did not go there in the first place
>> >>>
>> >>> Such an immensely brave and honest person
>> >>>
>> >>> Sheila
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> At 06:04 PM 6/9/2013, you wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 06/09/2013 04:43 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:
>> >>>>> I have to say going to Hong Kong for free speech and safety seems
>> like
>> >>>>> a very odd choice to me. What was he thinking?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Actually, and I think this is pointed out in either the video or an
>> >>>> article somewhere, Hong Kong doesn't generally suffer the speech
>> >>>> restrictions mainland China does. Sure, they aren't completely free
>> but
>> >>>> protests and unpopular political speech happen quite frequently and
>> are
>> >>>> generally well tolerated by the government.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Still, I have to wonder why he didn't go somewhere like Iceland. To
>> me,
>> >>>> that would have been a no-brainer.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Anthony
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Anthony Papillion
>> >>>> Phone:   1.918.533.9699
>> >>>> SIP:     sip:cajuntechie at iptel.org
>> >>>> iNum:    +883510008360912
>> >>>> XMPP:    cypherpunk38 at jit.si
>> >>>>
>> >>>> www.cajuntechie.org
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>> >>>
>> >>> Sheila Parks, Ed.D.
>> >>> Founder
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> Sheila Parks, Ed.D.
> Founder
> Center for Hand-Counted Paper Ballots
> Watertown, MA  02472
> 617 744 6020
> DEMOCRACY IN OUR HANDS
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