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[liberationtech] Oakland Cryptoparty This Sunday at 1pm

Brian Conley brianc at smallworldnews.tv
Mon Jun 17 06:04:19 PDT 2013


+1 Eleanor.
On Jun 14, 2013 6:38 PM, "Eleanor Saitta" <ella at dymaxion.org> wrote:

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> On 2013.06.14 18.20, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> > Now since I have (once again) opened my big mouth, I'll step up as
> > well: if any organizations want to get their email out of the
> > cloud/third parties, contact me off-list.  I have a pretty good
> > stash of disused hardware that could be put to work -- better that
> > it be used for good than gathering dust.
>
> The issue with this approach is that maintaining infrastructure like
> this takes an ongoing time commitment by someone who is clueful (and
> thus at least moderately expensive for broke organizations where
> everyone's constantly overworked), and that older hardware fails, and
> keeping enough spares around to get reliability adds cost and
> complexity again.
>
> I'm (definitely) not saying this is a bad idea here, but it's
> important to understand what the real costs look like for
> organizations that may not natively have this talent, or where the
> folks who are supposed to do the work also have other jobs.  For
> instance, in every small org that I've seen that does development and
> has infrastructure, infrastructure-only hires quickly get absorbed
> into development work.
>
> Running mail as reliably, securely, and conveniently as Google does
> with GMail is actually hard; this is why it's achieved the popularity
> it has, not just the cost.  I've watched many friends and orgs over
> the past 9 years decide they just didn't have the time any more.
>
> E.
>
> - --
> Ideas are my favorite toys.
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