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[liberationtech] NYT: Obama’s German Storm

fukami f at
Fri Jun 21 00:20:33 PDT 2013

Hey Paul!

On 18.06.2013, at 11:48, Paul Bernal (LAW) <Paul.Bernal at> wrote:
> This all needs to be viewed in the context of complex and contentious internal wrangling within the EU over the data protection reform package. What the PRISM saga does is strengthen the hand of those within the EU advocating for a stronger new package, and less watering down. To an extent this is an internal battle - and the Eurocrats don't care as much what the US thinks. To me it's more 'Germany vs UK' than it is 'Germany vs US', if you see what I mean.

Thanks for pointing this out, I fully agree (at least as far I'm able to understand what's going at EP). I was mainly referring to the influence of US lobbyist to weaken data protection over the last couple of months. Even if I don't trust many politicians, for me it looks like these lobbyists are out of the game for now. And there seems to be a good chance to get article 42 back.

> Ultimately they know that US businesses may well ignore large swathes of the new regulation, but they'll use that regulation for horse-trading, in the way they've done with European competition regulation for decades. 

Well, if Safe Harbour dies it would have an impact for US companies (but maybe I'm just too optimistic).


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