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[liberationtech] Call for Participants @ Noisy Square - Putting the Resistance back in OHM
griffinboyce at gmail.com
Tue Jun 25 04:18:27 PDT 2013
Jacob Appelbaum <jacob at appelbaum.net> wrote:
> Congratulations. I look forward to seeing them, probably on a remote
> stream but also perhaps in person.
It should be fun. =) I'm not sure that my Noisy Square talk  will be
No one has said that the cops shouldn't submit a talk - many have even
> called for debate panels and for the cops to join up. What is the status
> on that? Did any of those high tech police or intelligence agencies
> actually offer to join as a peer? Are they coming to share their new
> forensics techniques with the community?
My hope was that they would contribute a talk, as their American
counterparts have done on occasion. It's hard to hold an event when some of
the attendees have guns and generally act sketchy.
Part of my issue is this: there are a million asshole cops in the world
that we will probably never reach. Then there are the people who
apathetically claim to just be doing their job. These people are arguably
worse, but my feeling is that seeing us as well-rounded (or as close as
you'll get at a hacker con) might change their mind. I wish they ~would~
join us as peers, preferably to help us fight for a better world, but at
least to talk about the issues.
To arrest someone against their will is to commit an act of violence
> against them. If one is required by law to perform such arrests, one
> should avoid such an event - it puts the community in danger.
It's poor practice to expect a cop to not be a cop just because they
aren't at work. Having said that, I think a lot can be gained by there
being an open dialogue between the two groups -- beyond employee/employer
or target/surveillant. Something on equal footing where there's at least a
chance of understanding. It's sad that it doesn't appear to be in the
Most people on libtech have only ever seen me as an email signature, and
probably wouldn't expect that I've dealt with police oppression in one form
or another my entire life. For the benefit of the peanut gallery: I'm
completely othered and marginalized by the police and people like the TSA.
I've been held at gunpoint for such crimes as walking down the street.
I'm not a huge defender of the police, just in general =P
An American Classic. :D
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