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[liberationtech] A Different Panel with Whistleblowers

Shava Nerad shava23 at
Wed Jun 26 11:04:38 PDT 2013

Just as an historical footnote, at #cfp2013 today, I verified with Binney
that his statement re: Snowden's transition from whistleblower to traitor
was in fact a risk assessment of his positioning.  (We're listening to him
speak over lunch right now.)  He is spending all his time evangelizing for
NSA privacy accountability (for Americans) now.

I personally agree with him that military intelligence has a mission to spy
-- it's a tautology.  Our military in the US is too big for its britches,
and that's a longer problem.  But it's a minimization issue, not
elimination.  No country will unilaterally eliminate their MI.

So please, be mindful with our ex-military, they will not say we do not
need a military, or spies; or that the military or MI is inherently evil.
You may disagree as a pacifist, but these are our allies in this struggle
(final beat on a dead horse I hope).  This lunch panel is amazing is pretty

A call to action to citizen action to protect citizens here *and* abroad
from Thomas Drake, just amazing, saying it is all too broad and secret.

Abdo, Bamford, Binney, Drake, and Andrew Clement moderating -- wish you all
were here!

We need sunlight!

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