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[liberationtech] Is Ecuador the Safe Haven We Want to Believe In?

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6085 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 26 17:44:26 PDT 2013


The recently re-drafted Ecuadorean Constitution is the only one in the
world, I believe, that gives legal rights to Nature, and its current
President has done a lot for wealth redistribution and social justice, in
my opinion. Much more than the US Presidents of  late.
On Jun 26, 2013 6:14 PM, "Eleanor Saitta" <ella at dymaxion.org> wrote:

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> On 2013.06.26 18.26, hellekin wrote:
> > Ecuador won a huge credibility bump in hackerdom when it offered
> > political asylum to Julian Assange.  That is confirmed with Edward
> > Snowden jumping from HK to Ecuador via the Red Block to evade the
> > Angry Murder of U.S. crows. There is a pattern here: if you leak
> > U.S. secrets, you can go to Ecuador. How cool is that?
> >
> > Unfortunately, the flip side of the Ecuadorian coin might not be
> > as bright as it seems.
>
> I don't think anyone is assuming that Ecuador is a bright and shining
> city on a hill when it comes to civil liberties.  What it is is a
> tactically and potentially strategically useful jurisdiction for a
> specific class of people in some situations.  As with Hong Kong and
> Russia, I wouldn't assume that anyone is endorsing it as such.
>
> I mean, if they are, yes, they should go do some reading, but that's
> just not germane to the conversation for the most part, unless we're
> talking about civil rights in a whole pile of other places as well.
>
> E.
>
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