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railmeat at gmail.com
Fri Jun 28 22:18:21 PDT 2013
" Encryption meaningfully prevented a wiretap
for the first time ever in *2012* (or so we're told, for
non-intelligence domestic US wiretaps), and has only ever worked five
What are you referring to? Do you have a pointer to more information?
I am very curious.
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Eleanor Saitta <ella at dymaxion.org> wrote:
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> On 2013.06.28 13.14, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> Just curious, Eleanor-- once you implement your "bullet-proof"
>> privacy- preserving network, how do you plan to make the user
>> experience at all tolerable without automated mirroring like what
>> this developer has written and tested?
> That's going to depend on the system and the situation. With Briar,
> we do things that are fairly similar, but we also make a point of
> taking unlinkability seriously. Research code into social mirroring?
> Awesome. Protocol design intended for deployment that ignores
> unlinkability? Not awesome.
> More specifically, some of this is unrelated to Alireza's proposal --
> I'm using it to illustrate the kinds of shifts that we need to
> undertake in our thinking here. It's not about *this* tool, it's
> about every tool we build. To that end, I suppose I do owe them a bit
> of an apology -- really, it's nothing personal about this tool (and
> certainly not anything about them, although I hope that's obvious).
> It's all of us and everything that needs to shift.
> Finally, I should note in passing, I'm not trying to make something
> "bullet-proof". I care about security outcomes, not security
> theories. What I want to see is our tools reaching the point where
> we're actually playing the game, because right now, we're not even on
> the road to the stadium. Encryption meaningfully prevented a wiretap
> for the first time ever in *2012* (or so we're told, for
> non-intelligence domestic US wiretaps), and has only ever worked five
> times. This is pathetic and terrifying. Let's become an actual problem.
> - --
> Ideas are my favorite toys.
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