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[liberationtech] dark mail alliance

Petter Ericson pettter at
Fri Nov 1 10:19:13 PDT 2013

On 01 November, 2013 - Maxim Kammerer wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Sacha van Geffen <sacha at> wrote:
> > “Together our mission is simple: To bring the world a unique end-to-end
> > encrypted protocol and architecture that is the ‘next-generation’ of
> > private and secure email. What we call ‘Email 3.0.’ is an urgent
> > replacement for today’s decades old email protocols (‘1.0’) and mail
> > that is encrypted but still relies on vulnerable protocols leaking
> > metadata (‘2.0’),” they said in a blog post announcing the alliance.
> Does their mission also include making their service offerings
> redundant? E.g., anyone who does not need SMTP interoperability (let's
> call this innovative concept “Email 3.0”) can use cables communication
> [1], which is serverless.

I would imagine that they are aiming for something with reasonably
easy-to-remember identifiers (and less anonymity), as well as something where
you could relatively easily sync your inbox between devices, at least as an

I'd say join the list (or approach them directly) and post your ideas if you
feel that you can contribute, though. They've got the names, media attention
and marketing to get _something_ rolling which is better than the status quo.

Best make it as good as possible.


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