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[liberationtech] the 14th reason not to start using PGP is out!

Ali-Reza Anghaie ali at
Fri Nov 22 11:00:02 PST 2013

On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:24 PM, carlo von lynX
<lynX at> wrote:
> On 11/21/2013 05:23 AM, Ali-Reza Anghaie wrote:
>> As it pertains to your response to me from over a month ago (below) -
>> we're just on different pages. I'm not arguing the strategic problem
>> statement, I'm saying you've made a tactical decision that was
>> damaging. *shrug*
> History will tell who is damaging the most, those who promote new
> solutions or those who, just like politicians, try to cling to a
> broken status quo.

The status quo could also be said to "our" tendency to flitter from
one magical non-solution to another based on selfish ego and turf wars
and never sticking to the basics we took many years to get right. App
stores and toys. Oh - that would be you in that political anecdote.

See? Two can play at that silly comparison and character argument
assassination. It's not valid ~either~ way.

All I was saying is I disagreed with the tactical approach you took -
which is to declare something dead prematurely and without enough

>> Matters little now - so many new entrants into the ecosystem we're
>> already fighting the good fight against the bad fighters. Good luck,
>> Cheers, -Ali
> Fight? I didn't come to fight. I try to reduce the damage being done.

I didn't mean you - I meant the flood of entrants into the "secure
email" or "email replacement" chain that have been enabled by generic
assassinations and false comparisons of other technology.

Going back to my one of my original criticisms is that in the rush to
make this a ~tech~ issue we forgot to remind people that it's
primarily actually an OPSEC issue in most cases. If we're talking
~history~ then you're on the wrong side of that fence at least - again
a ~TACTICAL~ comment because I'm sure you (and in YOU) know that OPSEC
plays heavily into it. I'm talking about the delivery of the message.

I leave our particular sub-thread to you for the last word (should you
need / want it). Cheers and best wishes, -Ali

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