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[liberationtech] NSA-GCHQ meeting on Tor (with slides!)

Kyle Maxwell kylem at
Sun Oct 6 12:19:59 PDT 2013

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Maxim Kammerer <mk at> wrote:
> After going over the presentation, it seems as if GCHQ did all the
> work. Does NSA actually have good computer scientists working for it
> (not including mathematicians / cryptographers)? E.g., I have been to
> a workshop in London a few months ago (in an unrelated field), and
> instantly met someone collaborating with GCHQ. Never met someone
> working with NSA, however. NSA's CAE CO program, which could perhaps
> be considered their vanguard of academic CS cooperation, is just four
> little-known universities / colleges.

NSA culture discourages employees from being open about where they
work. Most will say "Department of Defense" or, in some cases, "Ft
Meade". So the fact that you've not met people who openly disclose
their affiliation with NSA doesn't *necessarily* mean that you've not
met any NSA engineers / CS types.


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