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[liberationtech] Google Unveils Tools to Access Web From Repressive Countries |

Micah Sifry msifry at
Wed Oct 23 14:32:34 PDT 2013

Hey Shava! Thanks for your feedback.

We wanted the headline to suggest that Lantern was the next new, exciting
thing in anti-censorship, and the easiest way to signal that was by
mentioning Tor. For what it is--scalable blocking resistance--it could very
well be better than Tor. We did not mean to set up the story of a horse
race between the two, merely to quickly contextualize Lantern for readers
less familiar with anti-censorship tools. Jessice is working on a follow-up
story tomorrow about the relationship between uProxy, Lantern and Tor, and
the information sharing that is the foundation of those tools. You can
reach her directly at jessica-at-personaldemocracy-dot-com and I'm sure
she'd be happy to talk with you.


On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Tempest <tempest at> wrote:

> Shava Nerad:
> > But if you look at the press or boosters or detractors, there is
> > misinformation, disinfo, and just a lot of glitter and FUD out there.
> >
> > Not to jump on TechPresident, but to use them as an example (but because
> it
> > was posted here...), there's a tendency to pit groups against one
> another,
> > too, which is freaking sad.
> >
> > From their headline:  ""Could State Department Funded Lantern Be Bigger,
> > Better Tor?"
> the lantern team already directly laid this to bed in their faq under
> "is lantern safe for me to use."
> "Lantern is not an anonymity tool. If you require that the sites you
> visit do not learn your IP address or physical location (they normally
> can, which may come as a surprise), or you cannot risk network monitors
> being able to determine what sites you visit, we recommend you use Tor.
> Tor is great software, and we communicate with the Tor team frequently.
> Again, Lantern’s purpose is access. Tor’s purpose is anonymity."
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