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[liberationtech] Sociological studies of covert mass-surveillance organisations

Caspar Bowden (lists) lists at
Mon Sep 2 01:15:17 PDT 2013

On 09/02/13 08:46, Caspar Bowden (lists) wrote:
> On 09/01/13 21:49, Michael Rogers wrote:
> ...
>> Wasn't the NSA closer to the panoptic ideal when it was No Such Agency
>> than now, when we know we're being watched?
> Yes, absolutely, but I don't think NSA wanted that, although a grimly 
> conspiratorial interpretation of current events is that it is a vast 
> planned PR gambit to effect transition to a global neo-Panoptic 
> society, after all civil libertarians have exhausted themselves in 
> protest...

Sorry I misread, that was a non-seqitur, i.e. the NSA is *now* the 
warden of a Panoptic Internet in consequence of the revelations. When it 
was No Such Agency, the Panoptic effect only occurs with "paranoids" or 
(as above speculatively) unconsciously


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