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[liberationtech] PayPal freezes MailPile's account

Michael Powers michael at
Thu Sep 5 09:29:45 PDT 2013

Oh, that too, but mitigated by the fact that a huge factor in KS success is whether the humans at KS decide to promote you -- something we have zero control over, and hasn't happened yet at any rate.  We suspect the Diaspora experience is being counted against us, but again, how could we possibly know?

Indiegogo is programmatic curation, so we suspect doing pretty well there at this point, given that our funds are almost entirely generated from traffic we're driving to the KS page.  

It's the difference between just clearing the goal, which we have a strong chance of doing, and overfunding like Mailpile and Diaspora.  

Also, KS is all-or-nothing, so we could really use your help! #softsell

  - Michael
63%+ 8 days to go!

On Sep 5, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Al Billings <albill at> wrote:

> I figured it was because various studies have shown that Kickstarter projects are generally more likely to be funded and pull in more money than Indiegogo. Kickstarter has the branding and mindshare and makes Indiegogo look like an also-ran.
> -- 
> Al Billings
> On Thursday, September 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Michael Powers wrote:
>> PayPal is probably the biggest reason Trsst didn't go with Indiegogo.  
> -- 
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