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[liberationtech] NYTimes and Guardian on NSA

Richard Brooks rrb at
Thu Sep 5 13:10:18 PDT 2013

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> There is a massive difference between cryptanalysis and decade-long,
> well-funded, and top-secret program to subtly weaken international
> cryptographic protocols and sabotage industry implementations.

Their job is to collect information for the military. That their
work is top-secret should be obvious. That they try to weaken
the crypto not used by the military and US gov. should also be
taken as a given.

I'm not necessarily in favor of the NSA doing this, I just find
some of the shocked outrage silly. It should be obvious that the
cryptanalysis people work at breaking codes.

(Spying on domestic communications, on the other hand, used to
be strictly forbidden for good reasons. Among other things, you
do not want intelligence and counter-intelligence to be friends.)

(Keeping long-term records of domestic communications, is another
thing that you do not want the intelligence service doing. Their
are too many temptations for abuse.)
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