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[liberationtech] Naive Question

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Mon Sep 9 11:24:04 PDT 2013

I wonder if there's a false analogy here. Hypothetically, the
librarian's sign could fall down (maybe the wind blew it over) whereas a
notice on a site would have to be removed via coding. There would be
little other explanation, even in the case where one does not
affirmatively renew the "dead man's notice" (the countdown that Doctorow
suggests in the article). Such an affirmative act might lead a court to
believe that one has indeed informed the public about an NSL.

- Rob Gehl

On 09/09/2013 12:18 PM, Dan Staples wrote:
> Presumably, if this type of approach became widely adopted, it would be
> a useful service for an independent group to monitor the status of these
> notices and periodically publish a report of which companies had removed
> their notice.
> On 09/09/2013 12:52 PM, Scott Arciszewski wrote:
>> Forgot the URL:
>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Scott Arciszewski
>> <kobrasrealm at <mailto:kobrasrealm at>> wrote:
>>     Hello,
>>     I saw this article on The Guardian[1] and it mentioned a librarian
>>     who posted a sign that looked like this:
>> and would remove it if
>>     visited by the FBI. So a naive question comes to mind: If I operated
>>     an internet service, and I posted a thing that says "We have not
>>     received a request to spy on our users. Watch closely for the
>>     removal of this text," what legal risk would be incurred?
>>     If the answer is "None" or "Very little", what's stopping people
>>     from doing this?
>>     Thanks,
>>     Scott

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