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[liberationtech] Naive Question
ben.doernberg at gmail.com
Mon Sep 9 12:47:23 PDT 2013
That is genius.
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Case Black <caseblack at gmail.com> wrote:
> There's a more subtle variant to this idea...
> Regularly state ("put up a sign") that you HAVE in fact received an
> NSL...with the public understanding that it must be a lie (there's no law
> against falsely making such a claim...yet!).
> When actually served with an NSL, you would now be bound by law to remove
> any such notification...thereby signaling the event.
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:24 PM, LISTS <lists at robertwgehl.org> wrote:
>> I wonder if there's a false analogy here. Hypothetically, the
>> librarian's sign could fall down (maybe the wind blew it over) whereas a
>> notice on a site would have to be removed via coding. There would be
>> little other explanation, even in the case where one does not
>> affirmatively renew the "dead man's notice" (the countdown that Doctorow
>> suggests in the article). Such an affirmative act might lead a court to
>> believe that one has indeed informed the public about an NSL.
>> - Rob Gehl
>> On 09/09/2013 12:18 PM, Dan Staples wrote:
>> > Presumably, if this type of approach became widely adopted, it would be
>> > a useful service for an independent group to monitor the status of these
>> > notices and periodically publish a report of which companies had removed
>> > their notice.
>> > On 09/09/2013 12:52 PM, Scott Arciszewski wrote:
>> >> Forgot the URL:
>> >> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Scott Arciszewski
>> >> <kobrasrealm at gmail.com <mailto:kobrasrealm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >> I saw this article on The Guardian and it mentioned a librarian
>> >> who posted a sign that looked like this:
>> >> http://www.librarian.net/pics/antipat4.gif and would remove it if
>> >> visited by the FBI. So a naive question comes to mind: If I
>> >> an internet service, and I posted a thing that says "We have not
>> >> received a request to spy on our users. Watch closely for the
>> >> removal of this text," what legal risk would be incurred?
>> >> If the answer is "None" or "Very little", what's stopping people
>> >> from doing this?
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Scott
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