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[liberationtech] iPhone 5S Fingerprint and Records (Was: iPhone5S and 5th amendment)

Joseph Lorenzo Hall joe at
Wed Sep 11 10:32:28 PDT 2013

On Wed Sep 11 12:59:57 2013, The Doctor wrote:
> A question that hasn't been asked yet (to my knowledge, anyway): Will
> any of the iProduct copying devices available to LEOs bypass the 5S'
> fingerprint reader?

Not sure about that... certainly the reporting Declan did a few months 
ago about the "waiting list" at Cupertino for PIN-bypass forensics 
seems to indicate that if they can get and keep your device 
indefinitely, Apple has a way to get around this (and Android can force 
a reset such that LE can set their own PIN/etc. without being 
challenged on the previous one).

The reporting from Der Spiegel this past weekend didn't seem to clear 
this up much... (not clear if they are getting access to a local 
computer to which the smartphones sync, or a cloud backup, etc.)

best, Joe

Joseph Lorenzo Hall
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Center for Democracy & Technology
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fingerprint: BE7E A889 7742 8773 301B 4FA1 C0E2 6D90 F257 77F8

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