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[liberationtech] Brazil Looks to Break from U.S.-Centric Internet

Moon Jones mjones at
Thu Sep 19 16:18:59 PDT 2013

On 19.09.2013 02:52, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes wrote:
> What do you mean exactly by "second-tier thought-leaders"? It REALLY,
> AWFULLY, sounds patronizing and "imperialistic" etc.

Bill Woodcock had something else in mind.

But you are right. They are second tier throught leaders. Countries 
where religion is rampant, people still know more about the diet of the 
gods than about evolution, militants are killed for trying to spread the 
education, castes and ethnic clasification still exist. Surely the so 
called West is no bed of roses, but don't mix things up.

I can say I understand why people from these countries are frustrated. 
They come from the upper-middle classes. Their parents were not those 
disgusting untouchables that haul garbage or wash the dead bodies. And 
they discover with globalisation that they are on top of the World as 
they know it. Than they get into contact with other cultures. And the 
clash is not as rosy as expected. Knowing the tradition to worship a 
three-handed god is quite irrelevant for the rest of the world, while 
other impure and mundane facts seem so overrated.

Sorry. I would want things to be different. But building an atomic bomb 
and killing thousands to protect the borders written by a drunk priest 
on a badly drawn map some centuries ago with no respect to the nations 
and ethnicities living on the actual land depicted by the map shows only 
one thing: the imperialism lives on in the people and the governments of 
the former colonies. People should help their brothers and sisters, all 
their neighbours understand that even if there is a Heaven nobody went 
there on no winged horse. It was a cute story a millenia ago. But today 
having doubts about the reality of a fairy tale shoud be the measure and 
not the perceived debts of a not so distant past.

In my book, if a man can walk home at night safely and a woman needs to 
be covered and protected in order to walk the same path, than I say 
those people are savages. It does not matter if it's Mumbay, Rio, New 
York, Paris or Budapest.

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