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[liberationtech] Venezuelan Open Source Software Communities Condemn Media Manipulation

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6085 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 3 12:45:39 PDT 2014


I checked, Damian. Perhaps it was a Zello glitch. And please note the
first word of the posting: "Apparently"

Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,

Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
<alps at acm.org>
+1 (817) 271-9619


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Damian Fossi <damianfossi at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3 April 2014 11:00, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes
> <alps6085 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> UPDATE
>>
>> Apparently Zello has been blocked in Venezuela since last night, and only
>> people with vpn can get through. This is not acceptable. Zelli's become an
>> important medium for the population at large - beyond "violent conspirators
>> " - to stay in touch, denounce, protest, report, coordinate, apart from the
>> rarefied and not trusted "politicians" from both sides.
>
> I'm in Venezuela, and I can use Zello without VPN/TOR. Maybe next time
> you should check your information sources before to express a false
> information.
>
>> What would the best tool be for circumvention of this censorship?
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2014 2:03 PM, "Dan Staples" <danstaples at disman.tl> wrote:
>>>
>>> Although the article addresses a number of specific issues relating to
>>> access of information and censorship during the recent protests, it
>>> attempts to justify censorship using the argument that "the right to
>>> live trumps the right to free information".
>>>
>>> This argument is made in reference to the likely government-imposed
>>> censorship of Zello and Pastebin. The problem with this argument is that
>>> it is not Zello or Pastebin or any other communications medium that is
>>> responsible for the right-wing violence that has been occurring. Those
>>> groups that commit the violence, right-wing or not, state-sponsored or
>>> not, are responsible for their actions. Those groups, and the political
>>> ideologies that drive and justify the violence, are what should be
>>> condemned.
>>>
>>> It is not justifiable to censor entire communication mediums that are
>>> used by violent groups, since those mediums are used by the public for
>>> legitimate reasons. Zello and Pastebin are both popular services used by
>>> lots of people. It is not justifiable to block all of Zello because some
>>> groups use it to plan violent actions, just as it is not justifiable for
>>> the NSA to compromise and surveil all Skype communications for
>>> purportedly similar reasons. There is no justice in forbidding use of
>>> the printing press just because some have used it to print calls to
>>> arms, to use an analogy.
>>>
>>> There is certainly a disproportionate amount of uncritical and
>>> inaccurate reporting on the situation in Venezuela, no doubt, and much
>>> of it is used to misrepresent elite-backed right-wing extremists as
>>> deserving victims of a tyrannical regime. But this type of justification
>>> for censorship is without merit.
>>>
>>> I'd really love to hear more people's thoughts on this, especially those
>>> with experience in the country.
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On 03/03/2014 07:11 PM, Damian Fossi wrote:
>>> > Original text in spanish: http://www.aporrea.org/tecno/n246101.html
>>> >
>>> > Text in english: http://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/10437
>>> >
>>> > Best Regards,
>>> >
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