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[liberationtech] Many VPNs and Psiphon are currently blocked in Iran right now

Brian Conley brianc at
Sat Feb 22 16:59:20 PST 2014


Solidarity and voluntary association are exactly about mutual agreements
between partners.

Aid is about disrespect of your partners believing they are weak and needy
or from the other side believing they are bleeding hearts whom you can take
advantage of.

I'm not talking about top down guidelines I'm talking about mutually agreed
and shared principles.

My point is that you believe in talking actions based on hard evidence and
data you should work with other people who are like-minded.

Also I fundamentally disagree that journalists and criminals depend on
convenience. I think that is the respite of laziness. But journalists and
criminals are professionals. My goal is not to help every citizen who wants
to look at cat videos or porn or share pictures of their lunch with their

My goal is to have a narrow subset of people that often also have these
desires. However I'm only interested in expending my limited time and
energy on this earth assisting committed, passionate, collaborative
individuals working for social change.

That's hard work and a small subset of humanity and I'm OK with that. I am
also a father and a husband, so my time is more limited than it used to be
and I'm no longer willing to work with anyone/everyone under some misguided
belief that we all work together or else.
On Feb 22, 2014 4:36 PM, "Pranesh Prakash" <pranesh at> wrote:

> Brian Conley <brianc at> [2014-02-22 14:58:22]:
> > Right, but let's not waste our time on people who don't want to help
> > themselves or check for themselves and only believe rumors. Sure tor
> works
> > slowly, but as Nathan pointed out, we have hard evidence that Iranians
> are
> > using Tor:
> That's actually the attitude that is responsible for far fewer people
> using security-enhancing technologies than should be.
> It would serve us well to remember that convenience is paramount for the
> vast majority of users (including the vast majority of journalists and
> the vast majority of criminals), whether we'd like to pander to
> convenience or not.
> A 2012/2013 study by Robinson + Yu (albeit done on a very small sample)
> on Chinese Internet users showed that speed was amongst the biggest
> complaints and was the second most important factor while choosing a
> circumvention tool:
> > Of course I don't intend to suggest we should just ignore uninformed
> users.
> > What I do suggest is that to work in solidarity we need to have agreed
> > parameters. That means we provide guidelines and we expect people to be
> > willing to try certain things as the process.
> Good luck finding people who meet your expectations of top-down
> guideline-followers.
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