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[liberationtech] Wicker: Déjà vu all over again

Steve Weis steveweis at
Tue Jun 10 16:55:37 PDT 2014

I'll echo Tom: It's relatively easy and a good learning exercise to pick
apart mobile apps and see what they're doing. On that note, here's some
source generated from the Wickr Android app class files using jd-gui:

That doesn't include a native library that comes in the APK, which appears
to be used for the core crypto. In that library, I see an "aes_encrypt"
function that uses ECB mode and an "aes_encrypt_improved" that uses CTR. I
don't see any authentication for CTR mode. I also don't see a safe padding
mode used with RSA.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Tom Ritter <tom at> wrote:

> I just want to jump in and mention again that it's entirely possible to
> pick apart applications written for Android, iPhone, Windows, Mac, etc and
> understand how they operate.  Going even deeper than just 'what they store
> on disk' and 'what they send on the wire'.  It requires a little bit of
> technological know-how, but places one could look for that expertise are
> organizations' technologists, the computer security group at one's
> university, many of the people on this mailing list, groups like Citizen
> Lab, and just following tutorials online and learning it yourself.
> The 'Trust but Verify' applies to open source, closed source, and that
> window of 'open source but distributes binaries e.g. through the play
> store'.
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