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[liberationtech] Wicker: Déjà vu all over again

Jonathan Wilkes jancsika at
Wed Jun 11 18:56:12 PDT 2014

On 06/10/2014 05:03 PM, Tom Ritter wrote:
> I just want to jump in and mention again that it's entirely possible 
> to pick apart applications written for Android, iPhone, Windows, Mac, 
> etc and understand how they operate.  Going even deeper than just 
> 'what they store on disk' and 'what they send on the wire'.  It 
> requires a little bit of technological know-how, but places one could 
> look for that expertise are organizations' technologists, the computer 
> security group at one's university, many of the people on this mailing 
> list, groups like Citizen Lab, and just following tutorials online and 
> learning it yourself.

You forgot to explicitly address the _ease_ of picking apart free 
software vs. proprietary apps.

I think the "coffee break bug spotters" on this list implicitly address 
the ease of picking apart free software when the source is publicly 

I think you implicitly addressed the ease of picking apart proprietary 
apps by writing about possibilities instead of actually picking this one 
apart during a coffee break.

(Just to be clear-- I'm talking about picking apart what the software 
actually does, not picking apart what somebody claims it does.)


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