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[liberationtech] Facebook available as a Tor hidden service

Robert W. Gehl lists at robertwgehl.org
Fri Oct 31 10:57:00 PDT 2014


Tried again, with scripts globally allowed. No change. The images that I
am supposed to identify do not load.

- Rob


On 10/31/2014 11:46 AM, Robert W. Gehl wrote:
> Hi, Jonathan --
>
> I do know the default, and I did change them to allow for first-party
> scripts. I agree that TBB's NoScript defaults are really hard to
> figure out (in comparison to NoScript in vanilla Firefox -- which
> admittedly is still a complicated setup). However, I assumed that if
> Facebook wanted to have a hidden service, they'd account for the fact
> that at the very least third-party JS is a no-no (and many Tor users
> also don't want to allow any scripts).
>
> From what I could tell, the verification system I went to to confirm
> my ID relied on third party scripts (it looked like Google scripts).
> It was a system in which I had to identify pictures of "friends". No
> pictures loaded.
>
> Moreover, the .onion Facebook will probably always say that the
> account is locked due to logging in from a "strange" location, so
> there will be that issue.
>
> In the end, I don't get why FB is doing this, other than to look hip.
>
> - Rob
>
>
>
> On 10/31/2014 11:40 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>> Hi Rob,
>> You do know TBB's defaults regarding scripts, right?  If it's a
>> conundrum with no easy answer for Tor devs, it's a conundrum for
>> Facebook as well.  So please do get on Tor Talk list and criticise
>> TBB for having an "(advised)" yet non-default setting for blocking
>> all scripts.
>>
>> I understand the conundrum, and I agree that there isn't an easy
>> answer, but that default setting in TBB is batshit insane.  It is
>> _the_ source of the conundrum.  If script-blocking were turned on by
>> default Facebook wouldn't even waste time trying to design a hidden
>> service like this.
>>
>> -Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 31, 2014 12:13 PM, Robert W. Gehl
>> <lists at robertwgehl.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I tried to login (with a fake account I maintain for just such a
>> purpose). "Your account is temporarily locked," it says. I get that;
>> it appears I'm trying to login from a strange location.
>>
>> To proceed, I have to ID pictures of friends. Ok, I say. But the page
>> with friends' photos doesn't load, probably because I have Javascript
>> off (common practice with the Tor Browser). Fail.
>>
>> Let's say people take this seriously -- to do so, they will have to
>> use Javascript, which is a bad move when using Tor.
>>
>> It seems to me that this would just inculcate bad security habits for
>> any would-be Dark Web users.
>>
>> - Rob
>>
>> On 10/31/2014 08:14 AM, Steve Weis wrote:
>>> Facebook is now available as a Tor hidden service at this .onion
>>> address:
>>> https://facebookcorewwwi.onion/
>>>
>>> Blog post is here:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/making-connections-to-facebook-more-secure/1526085754298237
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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