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[liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

Myself falcocom25 at gmail.com
Thu Jan 8 08:35:18 PST 2015


Unfortunately, the typical elitist, leftist, caviar communists conveniently
believe that Internet is bad for you (the people), good for them. They
think they are better, smarter (they always better know what to ban/censor)
and deserve more than everyone else only to be the first in the bourgeois
line to the firing squads once their revolutions are taken over by
authoritarian leaders. That's a big part of the mentality that needs to be
changed in Cuba.

PGP <http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA5BA76902CB232E3>

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes <
alps6085 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh YEAH! TAYLOR SWIFT! teaching us about Freedom while basking in her
> millions. OMG ROTFLMFBO
>
> Bottom line: any single bit of additional Internet access for ANYONE is
> GOOD.
>
>
> Best Regards | Cordiales Saludos | Grato,
>
> Andrés L. Pacheco Sanfuentes
> <alps at acm.org>
> +1 (347) 766-5008
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:25 AM, J.M. Porup <jm at porup.com> wrote:
>
>> Can't you see the bars of your cage?
>>
>> https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/500130322810273794
>>
>>
>> On 01/05/15 19:34, Myself wrote:
>> > You are using the Internet now. Are you a slave? Are you more equal than
>> > others to deserve it better and decide for them?
>> >
>> > On Jan 5, 2015 7:16 PM, "J.M. Porup" <jm at porup.com
>> > <mailto:jm at porup.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     The Cuban people deserve to be free. How did Cory Doctorow put it?
>> >     Information doesn't want to be free, people do.
>> >
>> >     The question is, will information free the Cuban people? Or will it
>> >     enslave them?
>> >
>> >     JMP
>> >
>> >
>> >     On 01/05/15 19:02, Myself wrote:
>> >     > Hollywood and Google belong to the Defense Department, Facebook
>> is CIA
>> >     > and it's all controlled by the Illuminati and E.T., still, Cubans
>> >     > deserve Internet access like everybody else. Checking my cable
>> modem
>> >     > now, Batista may be creeping up the coaxial :)
>> >     >
>> >     > On Jan 5, 2015 6:22 PM, "J.M. Porup" <jm at porup.com
>> >     <mailto:jm at porup.com>
>> >     > <mailto:jm at porup.com <mailto:jm at porup.com>>> wrote:
>> >     >
>> >     >     As a journalist who's spent a long time covering (and living
>> >     in) Latin
>> >     >     America, I observe that American culture--that is,
>> >     *information*--is a
>> >     >     major tool in maintaining regional hegemony.
>> >     >
>> >     >     In other words, Hollywood and Google both belong to the
>> Defense
>> >     >     Department.
>> >     >
>> >     >     If I were Cuba, why would I want to make it easy for the
>> >     jackbooted (if
>> >     >     red white and blue) thug next door to stomp all over me and
>> >     re-install
>> >     >     the next Batista?
>> >     >
>> >     >     JMP
>> >     >
>> >     >     --
>> >     >     J.M. Porup
>> >     >     www.JMPorup.com <http://www.JMPorup.com> <
>> http://www.JMPorup.com>
>> >     >
>> >     >     PGP fingerprint:
>> >     >
>> >     >     1442 C867 3E9D 14A1 58FC
>> >     >     2266 6AC3 56C1 D73A 6884
>> >     >
>> >     >     On 01/05/15 15:59, Myself wrote:
>> >     >     > Under the new measures announced by the Obama
>> administration in
>> >     >     December
>> >     >     > 2014, Cuban exiles can buy and send to the island satellite
>> >     Internet
>> >     >     > equipment, Wi-Fi routers, repeaters and pay for this service
>> >     for their
>> >     >     > relatives in Cuba. American companies such as HughesNet
>> provide
>> >     >     Internet
>> >     >     > service with plans starting at $40 a month for a 5 megabits
>> >     plan. Cuba
>> >     >     > is in the coverage area, already some Cubans illegally
>> >     connect to the
>> >     >     > internet this way. This wouldn't require any infrastructure
>> >     costs from
>> >     >     > the Cuban government, in fact, small neighborhood service
>> >     >     providers via
>> >     >     > Wi-Fi could be legalized and the government could collect
>> >     taxes from
>> >     >     > them in a similar way they are taxing "cuentapropistas"
>> (small
>> >     >     business
>> >     >     > owners) now.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > In a matter of months most neighborhoods in Cuba could be
>> >     connected.
>> >     >     > Cuban exiles have the economic means and desire to
>> >     communicate with
>> >     >     > their families over the Internet. The only thing standing
>> in the
>> >     >     way are
>> >     >     > Cuban custom's regulations and the Cuban government's
>> >     willingness to
>> >     >     > allow Internet access in a massive scale. The Cuban
>> >     government should
>> >     >     > stop blaming the embargo for the lack of Internet access and
>> >     start
>> >     >     > moving forward, it's time to put some pressure on them too.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > More info (Spanish):
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         Exiliados cubanos podrían costear acceso a Internet:
>> >     >     >
>> >     >
>> >
>> http://www.cubanet.org/tecnologia-2/exiliados-cubanos-podrian-costear-acceso-a-internet/
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > regards,
>> >     >     > Rafael
>> >     >     > www.lasingularidad.com <http://www.lasingularidad.com>
>> >     <http://www.lasingularidad.com>
>> >     >     <http://www.lasingularidad.com>
>> >     >     > PGP
>> >     >
>> >      <
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA5BA76902CB232E3>
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Myself
>> >     <falcocom25 at gmail.com <mailto:falcocom25 at gmail.com>
>> >     >     <mailto:falcocom25 at gmail.com <mailto:falcocom25 at gmail.com>>
>> >     >     > <mailto:falcocom25 at gmail.com <mailto:falcocom25 at gmail.com>
>> >     <mailto:falcocom25 at gmail.com <mailto:falcocom25 at gmail.com>>>>
>> wrote:
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     Hold your horses, the Cuban government's restrictions
>> >     haven't
>> >     >     >     changed a bit. This new deal has so far been one sided
>> and
>> >     >     >     overhyped. Satellite, Wi-Fi equipment is still banned at
>> >     cuban
>> >     >     >     customs and just last week a Cuban was sentenced to
>> three
>> >     >     years for
>> >     >     >     providing satellite service. Raids on the barrio offline
>> >     Wi-Fi
>> >     >     >     networks have been rampant this year.
>> >     >     >     It's too early to tell if the new measures will mean
>> >     more openness
>> >     >     >     or more wariness on the cuban side. Proceed with
>> caution and
>> >     >     without
>> >     >     >     jeopardizing american citizens in the process.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >
>> >     >
>> >
>> http://www.cubanet.org/noticias/desmantela-etecsa-red-clandestina-de-wi-fi-en-vibora-park/
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >
>> >     >
>> >
>> http://www.miscelaneasdecuba.net/web/Article/Index/548e5be53a682e084cff2ad0#.VJNBmXuWmQc
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     regards,
>> >     >     >     Rafael
>> >     >     >     www.lasingularidad.com <http://www.lasingularidad.com>
>> >     <http://www.lasingularidad.com>
>> >     >     <http://www.lasingularidad.com>
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     PGP
>> >     >     >
>> >     >
>> >     <
>> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA5BA76902CB232E3>
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >     On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yosem Companys
>> >     >     >     <companys at stanford.edu <mailto:companys at stanford.edu>
>> >     <mailto:companys at stanford.edu <mailto:companys at stanford.edu>>
>> >     >     <mailto:companys at stanford.edu <mailto:companys at stanford.edu>
>> >     <mailto:companys at stanford.edu <mailto:companys at stanford.edu>>>>
>> wrote:
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         From: Claro Noda <noda at complexperiments.net
>> >     <mailto:noda at complexperiments.net>
>> >     >     <mailto:noda at complexperiments.net
>> >     <mailto:noda at complexperiments.net>>
>> >     >     >         <mailto:noda at complexperiments.net
>> >     <mailto:noda at complexperiments.net>
>> >     >     <mailto:noda at complexperiments.net
>> >     <mailto:noda at complexperiments.net>>>>
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         Initiating new efforts to increase Cubans’ access to
>> >     >     communications
>> >     >     >         and their ability to communicate freely-
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         Cuba has an internet penetration of about five
>> >     percent—one
>> >     >     of the
>> >     >     >         lowest rates in the world.  The cost of
>> >     telecommunications in
>> >     >     >         Cuba is
>> >     >     >         exorbitantly high, while the services offered are
>> >     >     extremely limited.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         The commercial export of certain items that will
>> >     >     contribute to the
>> >     >     >         ability of the Cuban people to communicate with
>> >     people in
>> >     >     the United
>> >     >     >         States and the rest of the world will be
>> >     authorized.  This
>> >     >     will
>> >     >     >         include the commercial sale of certain consumer
>> >     communications
>> >     >     >         devices, related software, applications, hardware,
>> and
>> >     >     services, and
>> >     >     >         items for the establishment and update of
>> >     >     communications-related
>> >     >     >         systems.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         Telecommunications providers will be allowed to
>> >     establish the
>> >     >     >         necessary mechanisms, including infrastructure, in
>> >     Cuba to
>> >     >     provide
>> >     >     >         commercial telecommunications and internet services,
>> >     which
>> >     >     will
>> >     >     >         improve telecommunications between the United States
>> >     and Cuba.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >
>> >     >
>> >
>> http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/12/17/white-house-fact-sheet-on-cuba-whats-changing/
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         this might be relevant to the list.
>> >     >     >
>> >     >     >         regards,
>> >     >     >         Claro.
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