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[liberationtech] Cuba: 5% Internet penetration

Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes alps6085 at
Thu Jan 8 23:21:32 PST 2015

And here's something on the "fiber," with a plug for "old-school" mobile
oligopolic approaches:

" It is really Cuba’s pledge to provide greater access to the Internet to
its citizens that could be the most transformative development with respect
to the Internet in Cuba."

So, that's the difference, "Myself:" this time around, it is not just the
US opening up "limited trade," but rather a BILATERAL agreement.

The "cheap fiber" is there - ALBA-I undersea cable, & US Govt's promise to
lay undersea cable from FL to Gitmo - and the Coop framework provides a
democratic alternative to the Oligopolic Telecom service providers of the
"Free World!"
On Jan 9, 2015 2:01 AM, "Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes" <
alps6085 at> wrote:

> Here's a feasible approach:
> The technologies I mention are in use already in Cuba, although outside
> the legal system and thus subject to confiscation - case in point the
> newsclip about dusmantlement of an underground wifi network leveraging
> Ubiquiti Networks technology. Now they have a chance to set up coops to
> provide the same service within the boundaries of the legal system. It is
> very important for the progressive technology sector (people like the
> subscribers to this list) to exert pressure to open up the state telecom
> monopoly to new players, especially those based on democratic control of
> the means of production, like Coops.
> On Jan 8, 2015 4:19 PM, "Bill Woodcock" <woody at> wrote:
>> > On Jan 8, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Collin Anderson <collin at>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Bill Woodcock <woody at> wrote:
>> > It’s called fiber.
>> >
>> > Fiber is cheap?
>> Relatively.  It’s sand, somewhat processed.  And it carries a lot of
>> bits.  Nothing else carries a lot of bits.  So, since it’s the only option
>> that actually carries lots of bits, it’s sorta academic how much it costs
>> relative to other things, that don’t carry lots of bits.  So, yes, less
>> than a penny a strand-foot is cheap.
>>                                 -Bill
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