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[liberationtech] Whatsapp, a Trojan horse for seekers of easy privacy?

Brian Behlendorf brian at
Thu Jan 15 11:43:04 PST 2015

Good point, it's unfair to isolate out just the US.  Seems like some other 
nations viewed the Snowden disclosures as prescriptive or aspirational, or 
were already aligned.  Britain, for instance!  So tragic what's happening 

There are some countries where the respect for individual sovereignty 
seems a bit more integral - Switzerland, Iceland perhaps - where 
government efforts to compell private actors within their borders to 
compromise security seems unlikely, and where business models typically 
seem less surveillance-based.  But that's a pretty weak foundation, 
I concede.

It's just the US has become such an embarrassingly good example of this.


On Thu, 15 Jan 2015, Al Billings wrote:
> So, which countries exist where we *can* trust the binaries when they’re made within them?
>> On Jan 15, 2015, at 10:38 AM, Brian Behlendorf <brian at> wrote:
>> Sadly, given what we know about the current state of play and the 
>> actors involved (state-based, non-state, ad-tech companies, etc) it's 
>> sadly the case that we can't trust binaries made in the US if the 
>> public can't reproduce the build from source.

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